Teen to Leader
This article was printed in our TAL Tribune internal newsletter.
One hallmark of the TAL mission is our commitment to our people. Our commitment is evident in the benefits we offer, the training we provide, and the emphasis we place on health and wellness. Perhaps even more, it’s visible in the people who flourish over time on the TAL team. Four of our leaders—Colt Corrigan, Chad Daniels, Zac Linscott, and CJ Orozco—got their start in the industry in their teens or early adulthood. All four have continued to learn, grow, and achieve while also doing their part to invest in the next generation of leaders.
Q: As a branch manager, what do you do to help encourage and mentor employees?
A: I try to find ways for every employee to excel. I invite them to ask questions about any processes that might be outside their regular scope of work. I'm always willing to show them new processes they can learn and eventually even take over so they can have more responsibility and grow in their career.
Q: What attributes do you look for in employees?
A: I look for people who are excited to learn. People who want to find a career and grow within the company, who have a good work ethic and are excited to come to work every day. Because we’re a startup, I want to develop talented people who want to stay for a longer period of time. I’m not trying to just fill positions, but to fill a position with a plan for what the future might look like.
Q: What’s your best advice for someone who wants to grow their career?
A: Never be afraid to ask for more responsibility or look for ways to learn new skills. Another big thing is to recognize all the people around you who have experience and knowledge, and ask them lots of questions. Even if it seems like something that would be really hard, there’s lots of people who are willing to invest time in you and give you pieces of knowledge that ultimately have a ton of value in your life.
Q: When did the job transform into a career for you?
A: Rodney Bullion was one of my first mentors, and he has continued to be throughout the 15 years I’ve known him. When I had no idea what I wanted to do, he and other leaders took an interest and wanted to see me grow. At that time, I was in a band with some friends and getting older. So Rodney had a sit-down with me and said it was time to decide what I wanted to do with my life. I decided I was going to make this my career, and he removed roadblocks and put trainings in my path.
Q: What would you say is an important quality for a good leader to have?
A: Really listening to people is the biggest key, to see what their challenges are, to understand their aspirations. The more you talk to people and the more you know about them, you can figure out how to get them in the right spot to be successful. People need someone who takes an interest in them and also holds them accountable to get the job done. They want to know what they’re doing good and what they need to work on.
Q: With a workforce that includes four distinct generations, how do you cultivate a positive, collaborative environment?
A: I was really lucky when I was a Branch Manager, because one of my contractor salesmen was a Baby Boomer, another was Gen Z, I'm a Millennial, and my store supervisor at the time was Gen X. We had a lot of long conversations. Sometimes older generations don't give a lot of information; they might tell someone the gist of what needs to be done and let them figure it out from there. But there are other pieces that need to be explained or shown more in depth, which can cause conflict. It comes down to knowing a bit about the different generations and building bridges where there are gaps, like with technology or language. It usually means listening more, talking less, and learning more about people.
Q: What do you think your managers saw in you that they were willing to trust you with more responsibility?
A: I was always comfortable asking questions that I didn't know the answer to. But I think I was able to recognize that I was part of a company that cares about their employees. A company like TAL or Badger gives you that comfort zone to truly be yourself and learn rather than act like you know what you're doing.
Once you see that, from the top down, you know that everybody's very willing to help. That culture allows employees, especially a young employee, to feel comfortable enough to ask a question without worrying that they’re going to get a demeaning answer
Q: Now that you’re a manager, how do you help create a culture where others feel comfortable and safe asking questions?
A: The biggest part is by showing them that we're all human and we all make mistakes. I’ve learned the most from the things I’ve screwed up. Don't be afraid to make a mistake. Learn from it and just make sure you don't make the same mistake twice.
Q: What is one of the best lessons you learned from your managers or other leaders?
A: At TAL we have a really big, diverse group of people and yet we all have similarities and get along. That’s something people could easily take for granted. They all did a very good job at making you feel like you were a part of the company. They made sure your opinions mattered. They didn't want you to be afraid to speak up and they even enjoyed contradiction. If somebody had an idea, they’d want to talk about the pros and cons and make sure everybody understood and felt included.
Q: Why did you decide to pursue a career with TAL?
A: I had no idea what this industry could offer. There are so many different avenues within this industry, with sales, in operations. I think if I’d been aware of the opportunities and aspects of the industry, I would’ve made the decision for this career a lot sooner and I probably would've focused my education towards something specific in this industry.
Q: What do you think accounts for your rise to regional manager?
A: I was once told by a mentor, Jerry Larson, that luck is a formula—that luck is what happens when opportunity meets preparation. So I guess what I’ve tried to do is keep learning so I can be prepared for opportunities. By staying curious, I'm gathering as much data and information as possible, learning as much as possible, so when opportunities l come up, I have the experience to give it a shot.
Q: What’s your best advice for someone who is young or new to the industry?
A: My advice is to put in your time, earn your stripes, and doors will open for you. Stay curious, always ask questions, and don’t be afraid to admit when you don't know something. Within the industry, there are lots of people you can talk to to get answers and advice. If you stay curious and open to feedback, you'll learn little bits of information that go a long way
Q: What is one of your strengths as a manager?
A: I coached basketball for four years, and I still feel connected to younger generations. I feel like I'm an important part in interpreting the intentions or meanings between older and younger parts of our workforce.
You know, words that are universal, but meanings change between generations. It’s easy to get defensive or think you got your point across to the full extent. In those cases you might quit listening or not go back and follow up, and then communication is lost. But I think if you're emotionally intelligent, you’re aware of yourself, you know what makes you tick and what makes you drag, then you also can look at others and be more aware of their emotions. You’re more empathetic.